R'09 Twin World Congress Opening

 Aside from a few minor hitches with the sound, the two congresses in Nagoya, Japan and Davos, Switzerland managed to connect seamlessly through high-definition technology to make an impressive start to the conference. The two keynote speakers, one from Nagoya and one from Davos, portrayed contrasting strategies for limiting our natural resource use-surely a good start to a few days of debate!
 

Debate: SOCIAL CHANGE vs. EFFICIENCY
 Prof. Dennis Meadows, the acclaimed author of Limits to Growth, emphasised the need for a cultural and societal change, arguing that unless these issues were addressed the growth in consumption would continue to outweigh any increase in efficiency. Technology can buy us a little more time, but eventually our behaviour will have to change.  Contrarily, Prof. Hiroshi Esaki from the University of Tokyo wanted ‘ not to restrain the human being’ and to focus on increasing efficiency. What do you think? Is it possible to increase efficiency to such an extent that no change in attitudes is necessary?
 
Debate: THE USE OF A DISCOUNT RATE
Meadows was also very critical about economists’ use of the discount rate- the relative value of an increment in consumption at a time in the future relative to now. He argued that none of the assumptions needed to use the discount rate are fulfilled in this debate, namely that the future consequences of our actions are known, that all of the consequences can be reduced to financial terms, that we are the right people to pick the discount rate and that if we do make a mistake we can buy our way out of the problem. The choice of a discount rate is always a controversial decision when doing a cost-benefit analysis of environmental problems, do you think the discount rate is a useful tool or is misguided and meaningless?

Comments

Re: social change vs

Re: social change vs efficiency. Market pressures force the two to go hand in hand, without a change in social, political and business attitudes the pressure for increased efficiency is not sufficient to bring about the changes in technology needed. What I don't know is if the 'human being' is forward thinking enough to recognise that 'being restrained' in the short term will allow long term freedom.

I completely agree, the

I completely agree, the 'psychology of instant gratification' is too strong for us mortals! I hope that maybe the workshop 'Towards a New Economic Framework' may address this problem to a certain extent.

Discount Rate

Expenditures to preserve the frame of the economy are not usually submitted to discount rates. For instance, expenditures to fight a defensive war are not analyzed using discount rates. Expenditures to limit global warming are very near to that category of expenditures to preserve the economic frame.